Vettel vs Webber mechaniniai gedimai

2013 Lapkričio 22 d. 09:35

Kadangi daugeliui atrodo, kad Webberis kencia nuo mechaniniu gedimu daug labiau nei Vettelis, tai radau proga imesti statistika apie ju patirtus mechaninius gedimus per visa vaziavimo kartu laika. Ji nera oficiali, padaryta entuziastu ir tokiu yra kelios, imesiu tik viena kuria siuo metu radau (yra dar dvi, jose rezultatai panasus, Webbas nezymiai pirmauja pagal gedimu skaiciu).

The 2013 Hungarian Grand Prix marked the third race in a row that a Red Bull encountered mechanical issues; Mark Webber’s KERS failed during qualifying, and then Sebastian Vettel's KERS was stuttering due to overheating in the race. As this is the last year of the explosive pairing of Sebastian Vettel and Mark Webber, I looked through the history books to see how mechanical issues, team orders, and clashes with each other have affected both Red Bull drivers.

2009
China: Vettel can only make one run in each qualifying session due to driveshaft problems.
Turkey: Vettel is given the team order not to challenge Webber for 2nd place.
Belgium: Webber had an unsafe release during his pit stop, leading to a drive-through penalty.
Europe: Vettel has to make a 2nd stop because of fuel rig problems, and then retires with an engine problem.
Singapore: Webber retires with a brake problem.
Japan: Webber has issues with his headrest, forcing him to make 2 extra pit stops.

2009 score card
Sebastian Vettel: 3 issues (2 mechanical issues, 1 team order), 1 leading to a DNF
Mark Webber: 3 issues (2 mechanical issues, 1 significant pit stop issue), 1 leading to a DNF

2010
Bahrain: Vettel loses the lead due to a spark plug failure, dropping him back to 4th.
Australia: Vettel retires from the lead due to a brake failure.
Spain: Vettel has brake issues late in the race, which drop him back from second to third place.
Monaco: After Monaco, it is found that Vettel's chassis was cracked.
Turkey: Vettel loses out on pole position due to a broken anti-rollbar.
Turkey: Webber loses the lead after Vettel colides with him.
Canada: Webber had to change his gearbox, leading to a 5-place grid penalty.
Canada: Vettel has gearbox issues during the race.
Britain: After a front wing failure left the team with one new spec front wing, Webber was given the old spec.
Germany: Webber had an oil pick-up problem late in the race.
Italy: Vettel's engine shortly died half-way through the race.
Korea: Vettel retires from the lead due to an engine failure.

2010 score card
Sebastian Vettel: 8 issues (8 mechanical issues), 2 leading to a DNF
Mark Webber: 4 issues (2 mechanical issues, 1 team order, 1 team-mate clash), none leading to a DNF

2011
Australia: Webber had KERS issues in Q2 and Q3.
Australia: Webber had KERS issues during the race.
Spain: Vettel had KERS issues during qualifying.
Spain: Vettel had KERS issues throughout the race.
Monaco: Webber had radio issues shortly before his pit stop.
Canada: Webber had KERS issues during qualifying.
Europe: Webber had gearbox issues later in the race, dropping him from 2nd to 3rd.
Britain: A faulty wheelgun at his pit stop drops Vettel from the lead into 2nd place.
Britain: Vettel has KERS issues late in the race.
Britain: Webber was given team-orders not to challenge Vettel, who had KERS issues.
Britain: Vettel was challenged by Webber, who ignored the team orders not to.
Hungary: Webber had no KERS in Q2, which returned in Q3.
Italy: Webber had KERS issues in qualifying.
Singapore: Webber had no DRS during the race, which he believed dropped him from 2nd to 3rd.
Abu Dhabi: Vettel has a tire puncture in turn 1.
Brazil: Vettel has gearbox issues, which drops him from the lead, to finish 2nd.

2011 score card
Sebastian Vettel: 7 issues (5 mechanical issues, 1 significant pit stop issue, 1 team-mate clash), 1 leading to a DNF
Mark Webber: 9 issues (7 mechanical issues, 1 significant pit stop issue, 1 team order), none leading to a DNF

2012
Australia: Both Vettel and Webber had KERS issues in qualifying.
Malaysia: Vettel's radio stopped working shortly after the restart.
Bahrain: Webber had no KERS for the first lap.
Spain: Both Vettel and Webber had to have their front wing changed during the race.
Europe: Webber had DRS issues in qualifying, which left him at the back of the starting grid.
Europe: Vettel retires from the lead due to an alternator failure.
Germany: Webber had to change his gearbox, leading to a 5-place grid penalty.
Hungary: Webber had an issue with his differential.
Italy: Vettel retires with an alternator failure.
India: Webber's KERS issue dropped him from 2nd to 3rd.
Abu Dhabi: Vettel's fuel pump issues in qualifying sent him to the back of the starting grid.
United States: Webber retires with an alternator failure.
Brazil: Vettel's start is affected after Webber ignored instructions not to challenge him.
Brazil: Webber is issued a team order to let Vettel pass.
Brazil: Vettel's radio stops working, leading to pit stop issues.

2012 score card
Sebastian Vettel: 8 issues (7 mechanical issues, 1 team-mate clash), 2 leading to a DNF
Mark Webber: 9 issues (8 mechanical issues, 1 team orders), 1 leading to a DNF

2013
Australia: Webber has ECU issues for the first part of the race.
Australia: Webber returns in traffic after the front jack failed in the pit stop.
Malaysia: Vettel is given a team order not to challenge Webber half-way through the race.
Malaysia: Vettel is given a team order not to *** Webber after the final pit stops.
Malaysia: Webber loses the lead after Vettel ignores a team order.
China: Webber lost fuel pressure in Q2.
China: Webber's wheel comes off during the race.
Britain: Vettel retires from the lead with gearbox issues.
Germany: Webber's first pit stop goes disastrous, which puts him back at the end of the field.
Germany: Vettel has KERS issues during the race.
Hungary: Webber has KERS issues during qualifying.
Hungary: Vettel has overheating and KERS issues during the race.

2013 half-season score card
Sebastian Vettel: 5 issues (3 mechanical issues, 2 team orders), 1 leading to a DNF
Mark Webber: 7 issues (4 mechanical issues, 2 significant pit stop issues, 1 team-mate clash), 1 leading to a DNF

4.5 year score card
Sebastian Vettel: 31 issues (25 mechanical issues, 3 team order, 2 team-mate clashes, 1 significant pit stop issue), 7 leading to a DNF
Mark Webber: 32 issues (23 mechanical issues, 3 team orders, 2 team-mate clashes, 4 significant pit stop issues), 3 leading to a DNF


2013 Lapkričio 22 d. 09:39

Cia, kad butu saziningiau, dar viena. Priskaiciuota Wbbui kiek daugiau nesekmiu, na bet skirtumas nera toks zymus kaip gali pasirodyti. Be to Sebas turejo daug daugiau gedimu privedusiu prie DNF

2009
China: Vettel can only make one run in each qualifying session due to driveshaft problems.
Turkey: Vettel is given the team order not to challenge Webber for 2nd place.
Belgium: Webber had an unsafe release during his pit stop, leading to a drive-through penalty.
Hungary: Vettel retires with suspension faillure.
Europe: Vettel has to make a 2nd stop because of fuel rig problems, and then retires with an engine problem.
Singapore: Webber retires with a brake problem.
Japan: Webber has issues with his headrest, forcing him to make 2 extra pit stops.

2009 score card
Sebastian Vettel: 4 issues (3 mechanical issues, 1 team order), 2 leading to a DNF
Mark Webber: 3 issues (2 mechanical issues, 1 significant pit stop issue), 1 leading to a DNF

2010
Bahrain: Vettel loses the lead due to a spark plug failure, dropping him back to 4th.
Bahrain: Webber had a slow pit stop, which lost him a position to Button.
Australia: Vettel retires from the lead due to a brake failure.
Spain: Vettel has brake issues late in the race, which drop him back from second to third place.
Monaco: After Monaco, it is found that Vettel's chassis was cracked.
Turkey: Vettel loses out on pole position due to a broken anti-rollbar.
Turkey: Webber loses the lead after Vettel colides with him.
Canada: Webber had to change his gearbox, leading to a 5-place grid penalty.
Canada: Vettel has gearbox issues during the race.
Europe: Webber drops behind Kovallainen after a slow pit stop
Britain: After a front wing failure left the team with one new spec front wing, Webber was given the old spec.
Germany: Webber had an oil pick-up problem late in the race.
Italy: Vettel's engine shortly died half-way through the race.
Korea: Vettel retires from the lead due to an engine failure.
Brazil: Webber struggles with high engine temperatures in the race.

2010 score card
Sebastian Vettel: 8 issues (8 mechanical issues), 2 leading to a DNF
Mark Webber: 7 issues (3 mechanical issues, 1 team order, 1 team-mate clash, 2 significant pit stop issues), none leading to a DNF

2011
Australia: Webber had KERS issues in Q2 and Q3.
Australia: Vettel and Webber had KERS issues during the race.
Australia: Webber had problems with his chassis.
Malaysia: Webber had no KERS in Q3.
Malaysia: Vettel and Webber had KERS issues during the race.
Malaysia: Vettel has brake problems late in the race.
China: Webber qualifies 18th after electrical problems in practice.
China: Vettel has KERS issues during the race.
Spain: Vettel had KERS issues during qualifying.
Spain: Vettel had KERS issues throughout the race.
Monaco: Webber had radio issues shortly before his pit stop, causing a slow stop.
Canada: Webber had KERS issues during qualifying.
Europe: Webber had gearbox issues later in the race, dropping him from 2nd to 3rd.
Britain: A faulty wheelgun at his pit stop drops Vettel from the lead into 2nd place.
Britain: Vettel has KERS issues late in the race.
Britain: Webber was given team-orders not to challenge Vettel, who had KERS issues.
Britain: Vettel was challenged by Webber, who ignored the team orders not to.
Germany: Vettel has brake issues during the race.
Hungary: Webber had no KERS in Q2, which returned in Q3.
Hungary: Webber's DRS failed during Q3.
Hungary: Vettel has brake issues during the race.
Belgium: Webber misses the pit call and had to go for another lap.
Italy: Webber had KERS issues in qualifying.
Singapore: Webber had no DRS during the race, which he believed dropped him from 2nd to 3rd.
Abu Dhabi: Vettel has a tire puncture in turn 1.
Brazil: Vettel has gearbox issues, which drops him from the lead, to finish 2nd.

2011 score card
Sebastian Vettel: 12 issues (10 mechanical issues, 1 significant pit stop issue, 1 team-mate clash), 1 leading to a DNF
Mark Webber: 15 issues (12 mechanical issues, 2 significant pit stop issues, 1 team order), none leading to a DNF

2012
Australia: Both Vettel and Webber had KERS issues in qualifying.
Malaysia: Vettel's radio stopped working shortly after the restart.
Bahrain: Webber had no KERS for the first lap.
Spain: Webber is held too long in Q2, making him miss out on Q3.
Spain: Both Vettel and Webber had to have their front wing changed during the race.
Canada: Webber has engine issues early on in the race.
Europe: Webber had DRS issues in qualifying, which left him at the back of the starting grid.
Europe: Vettel retires from the lead due to an alternator failure.
Germany: Webber had to change his gearbox, leading to a 5-place grid penalty.
Hungary: Webber had an issue with his differential.
Belgium: Webber receives a 5-spot grid penalty for a gearbox change.
Italy: Vettel retires with an alternator failure.
India: Webber's KERS issue dropped him from 2nd to 3rd.
Abu Dhabi: Vettel's fuel pump issues in qualifying sent him to the back of the starting grid.
United States: Webber retires with an alternator failure.
Brazil: Vettel's start is affected after Webber ignored instructions not to challenge him.
Brazil: Webber is issued a team order to let Vettel pass.
Brazil: Vettel's radio stops working, leading to wrong tires at the pit stop.
Brazil: Vettel's last change of tires saw a 7.6 second slower pit stop.

2012 score card
Sebastian Vettel: 9 issues (7 mechanical issues, 1 team-mate clash, 1 significant pit stop issue), 2 leading to a DNF
Mark Webber: 12 issues (10 mechanical issues, 1 team orders, 1 significant pit stop issue), 1 leading to a DNF

2013
Australia: Webber has ECU/KERS issues for the first part of the race.
Australia: Webber returns in traffic after the front jack failed in the pit stop.
Malaysia: Vettel is given a team order not to challenge Webber half-way through the race.
Malaysia: Vettel is given a team order not to *** Webber after the final pit stops.
Malaysia: Webber loses the lead after Vettel ignores a team order.
China: Webber lost fuel pressure in Q2.
China: Webber's wheel comes off during the race.
Britain: Vettel retires from the lead with gearbox issues.
Germany: Webber's first pit stop goes disastrous, which puts him back at the end of the field.
Germany: Vettel has KERS issues during the race.
Hungary: Webber has KERS issues during qualifying.
Hungary: Vettel has overheating and KERS issues during the race.
Belgium: Webber has clutch issues at the start of the race.
Italy: Both Vettel and Webber have gearbox issues, which causes them to have to short-shift.

2013 half-season score card
Sebastian Vettel: 6 issues (4 mechanical issues, 2 team orders), 1 leading to a DNF
Mark Webber: 9 issues (6 mechanical issues, 2 significant pit stop issues, 1 team-mate clash), 1 leading to a DNF

4.5 year score card
Sebastian Vettel: 39 issues (32 mechanical issues, 3 team order, 2 team-mate clashes, 2 significant pit stop issue), 8 leading to a DNF
Mark Webber: 45 issues (33 mechanical issues, 3 team orders, 2 team-mate clashes, 7 significant pit stop issues), 3 leading to a DNF

2013 Lapkričio 22 d. 10:22

Na va finale, vistiek pasibirs kalbos, kad Weberis testuoja tik dalis, nors Vetelis overall turi daugiau DNF.

2013 Lapkričio 22 d. 12:12

Edvardziune>> na ir kur gi tu radai info, kad Vetelis overall turi daugiau gedimu?
as tai matau eilutes:
Mark Webber: 45 issues (33 mechanical issues)
Sebastian Vettel: 39 issues (32 mechanical issues)

2013 Lapkričio 22 d. 12:19

SliMMaz >> taigi ne apie gedimus, o apie DNF overall rašė.

2013 Lapkričio 22 d. 12:39

Ta prasme apie leading DNF? :) tai koks skirtumas leading ar ne eading jei sudejus viska vistiek gaunasi 45 pries 39 :)

2013 Lapkričio 22 d. 12:46

Slimmaz>> Taip, gaunasi 45-39, kas per 5 sezonus nera toks didelis skirtumas kaip isivaizduoja Sebo antifanai.

2013 Lapkričio 22 d. 13:15

gilles82>> na taip, tavo protokolose irgi rasoma, kad Veteliui n ka reciau KERS gesdavo, bet tik dabar pastebejau, kad ne tik antifanu, bet ir transliacijose Weberio kesas budavo dazniau eskaluojamas gal is ten ir ta nuomone apie Weberio gedimus? :)

2013 Lapkričio 22 d. 14:24

Slimmaz>> Kadangi Webbo kaip ir "underdog" yra, tai naturalu, kad zmones nori, kad jam labiau sektusi ir kiekvienas gedimas, ypac jei Vettelis laimi lenktynes, labiau eskaluojamas. Be to matosi, kad Markas turejo liuto dali nesamoniu pituose. Kiek pamenu, Vetteliui nera ne karto rato neprisuke. Tas dar prisideda, ir Webbo skriaudziamojo ivaizdis kaip mat paryskeja:)

2013 Lapkričio 22 d. 20:06

gilles82> Aciu. :)

2013 Lapkričio 22 d. 20:26

Katik per Sky ziurejau antra treniruote ir kai Webui pasake, kad neveike kers, net komentatoriai juokiesi, sako, kad trbt nebuvo etapo Weberiui su sveiku kers :) As nesuprantu kas red buliaims su tais kersais daros? 0.o

2013 Lapkričio 23 d. 14:53

SliMMaz> Buna, komanda kartais specialiai isjungia KERS slapioje trasoje, nes pilotams ji nereikalinga, o dar kartais ir pavojinga, nes ja reikia isnaudoti. Cia kaip tik apie tai Webberis kalba kazkur per viduri laidos su Bergeriu:

http://www.linkomanija.net/details?310708.The_F1_Show_2013_11_22_720p_HDTV_DD5_1_x264-SFH

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