Pikantiskas ivykis - Suzuka'93:

2003 Gegužės 28 d. 12:34

Much speculation surrounds Ayrton Senna's encounter with Eddie Irvine after the 1993 Japanese GP. The following is a transcript of that now infamous event ...

The scene: Eddie Irvine is sitting alone on a ta*** in the Jordan cabin. Jordan's commercial manager, Rubens Barichello and several other people, mostly Team members, are also present. Suzuka was Irvine's first ever F1 race and everyone is watching a re-run of the Senna-Hill-Irvine incident.

Suddenly the door opens and in walks Ayrton Senna accompanied by Norman Howell, director of communications for McLaren and Giorgio Ascanelli, Senna's engineer.

Senna is looking for Irvine, but either he doesn't see him or he doesn't recognise him. Eddie Irvine raises his hand and Senna walks over to him ...

Irvine : Here!

Senna : What the **** do you think you were doing?

Irvine : I was racing!

Senna : You were racing? Do you know the rule that you're supposed to let the leaders come by when you're a back marker?

Irvine : If you were going fast enough, it was no problem.

Senna : I overtook you! And you went three times off the road in front of me, at the same place, like ****ing idiot, where there was oil. And you were throwing stones and all things in front of me for three laps. When I took you, you realised I was ahead of you. And when I came up behind Hill, because he was on slicks and in difficulties, you should have stayed behind me. You took a very big risk to put me out of the race.

Irvine : Where did I put you in any danger?

Senna : You didn't put me in any danger?

Irvine : Did I touch you? Did I touch you once?

Senna : No, but you were that much from touching me, and I happened to be the ****ing leader. I HAPPENED TO BE THE ****ING LEADER!

Irvine : A miss is as good as a mile.

Senna : I tell you something. If you don't behave properly in the next event, you can just rethink what you do. I can guarantee you that.

Irvine : The stewards said "No problem. Nothing was wrong."

Senna : Yeah? You wait till Australia. You wait till Australia, when the stewards will talk to you. Then you tell me if they tell you this.

Irvine : Hey, I'm out there to do the best for me.

Senna : This is not correct. You want to do well. I understand, because I've been there I understand. But it's very unprofessional. If you are a back marker, because you happen to be lapped ...

Irvine : But I would have followed you if you'd ***n Hill!

Senna : You should let the leader go by ...

Irvine : I understand that fully!

Senna : ... and not come by and do the things you did. You nearly hit Hill in front of me three times, because I saw, and I could of collected you and him as a result, and that's not the way to do that.

Irvine : But I'm racing! I'm racing! You just happened to ...

Senna : You're not racing! You're driving like a ****ing idiot. You're not a racing driver, you're a ****ing idiot!

Irvine: You talk, you talk. You were in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Senna : I was in the wrong place at the wrong time?

Irvine : Yes. I was battling with Hill.

Senna : Really? Really? Just tell me one thing. Who is supposed to have the call? You, or the leader of the race who comes through to lap you?

Irvine : The leader of the race.

Senna : So what have you done?

Irvine : You, you were too slow, and I had to *** you to try to get at Hill.

Senna : Really? How did I lap you if I was too slow?

Irvine : Rain. Because on slicks you were quicker than me, on wets you weren't.

Senna : Really? Really? How did I come and *** you on wets?

Irvine : Huh?

Senna : How come I overtook you on wets?

Irvine : I can't remember that. I don't actually remember the race.

Senna : Exactly. Because you are not competent enough to remember. That's how it goes you know.

Irvine : Fair enough. Fair enough. That's what you think.

Senna : You be careful guy.

Irvine : I will. I'll watch out for you.

Senna : You're gonna have problems not with me only, but with lots of other guys, also the FIA.

Irvine : Yeah?

Senna : You bet.

Irvine : Yeah? Good.

Senna : Yeah? It's good to know that.

Irvine : See you out there.

Senna : It's good to know that.

Irvine : See you out there ...

Appearing to turn away Senna then turns back and hits Irvine with his left hand. The blow lands on the right side of Irvine's head. Irvine loses his balance and falls off the ta***. Senna is still shouting as he is hustled towards the door.

Irvine yells "Insurance claim there!"

Senna (leaving) retorts "You got to learn to respect where you're going wrong!"

2003 Gegužės 28 d. 12:40

daugiau prirasyt neiseina?:)

2003 Gegužės 28 d. 12:40

va cia ir buvo paskutine vinis kur Senna krito mano akyse i pati dugna... O Eddie isgarsejo, ir ne veltui, kaip veliau paaiskejo:)

2003 Gegužės 28 d. 12:43

"You, you were too slow" :goodjob: EI :D

2003 Gegužės 28 d. 12:44

Geras! Aciu AF1 buvo labai faina pasiskaityti. Ir vis del to man atrodo, kad EI buvo teisus, jis kovojo su Hillu del vietos, o Senna vaziavo pirmas nemazai atsipleses nuo kitu, ir tiesiog atsidure netinkamoj vietoj, netinkamu laiku ;)

2003 Gegužės 28 d. 12:51

"i pati dugna" :)
isgarsejo, ir neveltui" :D
"EI buvo teisus" ...juokingai cia pasakei...

2003 Gegužės 28 d. 12:57

Jo naujokelis su pamokom.. Tu cia too slow ir t.t...

2003 Gegužės 28 d. 12:58

Teisus buvo Senna (kokiu didziuliu Ediko gerbeju nebutu AF1, bet jis nera nei durnas, nei aklas).
Kas kita kaip ten jis ta teisuma pateike, bet tai ne esme, kiekvienas uzvirtu...

As si posta parasiau tam, kad prisimintume si ivyki. Jis gana pikantiskas, todel ir postinau. Tik todel.

2003 Gegužės 28 d. 13:30

TaBu> nu ir kas cia juokingo? Prisipazystu nemaciau nei tu lenktyniu, nei to epizodo, bet faktas vienintelis ir nenugincijamas, jeigu EI butu buves neteisus butu gaves 10 s. bauda, bet negavo vadinasi buvo teisus!

2003 Gegužės 28 d. 14:19

AF1> nesikartoji kartais ?:) man atrodo jau tokia zinute buvai uzvedes kazakda :)

2003 Gegužės 28 d. 14:30

mafaz> cia pilna transcription, kiek pamenu anksciau buvau tik imetes santrauka

2003 Gegužės 28 d. 14:35

Senna gerais keliais tiesios ieshkojo (istikruju tiesios o ne pranasumo sau):).Karta ir MS i liuli buvo uzvaziaves :):):) Kai tas nesamones padarydavo panasias kaip EI cia.

2003 Gegužės 28 d. 14:57

kazkur as jau tai skaiciau kaip mafaz sake ;)

2003 Gegužės 28 d. 15:18

Truth> nepopal:) Iki liulio nedaejo, o AS zria putesi 92-ais Magny-Course bei veliau Hockenheime (juolab kad ten FP buvo).

2003 Gegužės 28 d. 15:25

PMS> nu taip, iki nokauto nedave bet sugriebes uz atlapu buvo ir ten ji papurte mazumele :) Kitame etape jau MS buvo 'ramesnis' :)

2003 Gegužės 28 d. 15:37

Truth> jo, ir dar po etapo pirmakart nugalejo:)

2003 Gegužės 28 d. 16:31

Nors sio ivykio deja neteko matyt gyvai (beje ir iraso kazkaip niekur nerandu, nei lenktyniu nei pacio pokalbio, gal kas zinot kur ta pokalbi butu galima pamatyt, nes is kalbos galima susidaryti ganetinai subjektyvu ispudi) , bet nuogirdas esu girdejes ir toki atveji kad ASdS "atjunge" EI irgi girdejes, bet dabar pirma karta teko perskaityt ju pokalbi.......hmz,....siaip sioje situacijoje ASdS pasirode labai nervuotas :D na nzn nemaciau to epizodo su DH tai negaliu pasakyt ar buvo verta "pridubasinti" vargsa EI ;)

O siaip tai nuo to tai man nei silta nei salta as savo poziurio vistiek nepakeiciau o tik dar labiau ......(toliau gereu nerasyt)

2003 Gegužės 28 d. 20:00

PMS> va koks teisingas buvo AS...o visi kaip vaikai spyriojosi, paklause jo ir laimeti ishmoko naujokeliai :)

2003 Gegužės 29 d. 10:19

na apskritai kad po lenktyniu buvo duodama kazkam i snuki del kazkokio nepatikusio momento,labai daug ka pasako apie pilota. o pagal tokius poelgius garbinti ar smerkti, tai jau kiekvieno asmeninio supratimo reikalas

2003 Gegužės 29 d. 10:47

negative> :goodjob:

2003 Gegužės 29 d. 11:16

Vat del to ASdS, MS ir EI patinka. Bet ir MH kazkodel patinka, del kitu savybiu zinoma :)

2003 Gegužės 29 d. 11:20

Beje, del Ediko sumusimo, tai jus per daug nepergyvenkit: niekas jo nemuse :) Kaip bebutu keista, ne vienas zurnalistas (kuriu ten buvo pilna) nesugebejo pateikti foto, o Ediko mechanikai, buve salia, ir dabar tvirtina, kad pokalbio pabaigoje Ayrton tiesiog pastume Edika rankomis tolyn nuo saves. Ju teigimu, pasakos apie mustynes yras tik zurnalistu ispustas burbulas. Beje, Senna kaip ir daugeliu kitu atveju buvo 100% teisus- 1994 metais uz pavojinga vaziavima Edikas tikrai turejo labai daug problemu ir su FIA, ir su kitais pilotais. O ta lenkimo momenta as turiu video kaseteje- Senna aplenkia Edika, ir laukia, kol ji praleis Hillas. Paskutinis ratas, rizikuoti lenkti Hilla, kol tas jo nemato, butu kvailyste- trasa slapia. Ir tuo metu, kai atrodo, kad Hillas jau praleis Senna ir sis ima ruosti lenkimo manevra, is galo staiga soka Edikas. Jei ne Sennos sugebejimas visada matyti viska aplinkui- susidurimas butu beveik garantuotas.
Anyway, man sis epizodas islieka vienas maloniausiu (kaip ir pvz. '90 Japonija, kai vienas zmogus iveike visa supuvusia sistema). Jis parodo, kad buvo lenktynininku, kuriems F-1 rupejo ne tik savo subines ribose, bet ir daug placiau. O kiti gali manyti ka tik nori- tiek man, tiek JAM i kitus... dzin :)

2003 Gegužės 29 d. 12:41

Teisutis> butu faina pamatyti! Jei kada perkeltum ta savo vaizdeli i kompa pranesk ;)

2003 Gegužės 29 d. 12:57

Na Ayrtonas tai tikrai nera daves niekam i snuki, ne tas zmogus...o vat negative, tavo zinute labai tikru komentare apie 1998 Spa GP kai Deividui Coulthardui tikrai labai pasiseke nes Michaelis atrode buvo pasiruoses ne tik duoti y snuki bet ir pribaigti skota...ir beje tavo pasakymas "kazkokio nepatikusio momento" skamba keistai, jei vairuoji automobili ir turi nemaza staza pats turetum suprasti kad kartais buna tokiu momentu kai kazkox geltonsnapis piz***** atsiprasant nesilaikydamas taisykliu rizikuoja tavo ir tavo seimos sveikata, tai tuomet tikrai kyla noras pasigauti ir atspardyti viena vieta... Ir as pateisinu visus lenktyninkus kurie po incidento puola viens prie kito aiskintis, nes tai normalu ir zmogiska, reikia buti mankurtu kad sau ramiai reaguotum i situacijas keliancias gresme ne del tavo kaltes.


2003 Gegužės 29 d. 23:27

O kad butu linksmiau, gal tuo paciu prisimenam ir didziausia F-1 plevesa Piquet? Va kaip jis praejus vos kelioms sekundems jau spyre i subine pilotui, su kuriuo susidure, tai turbut daugelis tikru F-1 fanu yra mate :)

2003 Gegužės 29 d. 23:54

Teisutis > turi omeny 1982 Hockenheim?(Germany_1982_N.Piquet_Crash.avi) na sitas tai tikrai geras :D paskaiciavau tai tas vargsas zmogelis gavo tris smugius is rankos (vienas buvo dvigubas, t.y. su dviem rankom !) na poto dar i tarpukoji vos nepraspyre (nedaug truko!) na tokiu kurijozu kazin ar dar buvo per visa F-1 istorija.....

2003 Gegužės 30 d. 05:27

wytas> nereik but mankurtu, uztenka buti Mikka arba Kimi arba kitu "karstuoju" suomiu :)

2003 Gegužės 30 d. 10:29

Manau tai daug ka pasako apie "svaruti, talentingiausia visu laiku" sportininka Senna. Davai, tegul padaro dabar dar ir kikbokso varzybas :) o mes paspeliosim kas laimes: Scumis ar Montoya :) Negrazu....oi negrazu del kazkokio epizodo kumsciais mojuoti...

2003 Gegužės 30 d. 23:09

Rolex> bandau isivaizduoti, kaip galima ismokti rasyti neismokus skaityti: iki siol maniau, kad tai neimanoma, bet tu irodei priesingai. "Talentas" odnako busi :D

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